This journey assumes
- The Indian company is a private company incorporated in India, not a financial services entity, with no account classified as a non-performing asset.
- The US subsidiary will sell software licences, subscriptions and services to US customers, while most development stays in India.
- The Indian investment is within the automatic route for overseas direct investment.
- A later US fundraise may be at the US subsidiary level or after a flip that makes a US company the group parent; both are considered.
- Rules are stated as at 19 October 2026; US state rules differ and are not covered state by state.
If any assumption is wrong for your business, the conclusions change. Ask WONE Global to re-run the analysis with your facts.
Both sides of the border, issue by issue
Each row is one part of the work. The left and right columns show what each country's rules require, so you can see where one side's decision constrains the other.
Investing from India into the US subsidiary
The US company is an overseas direct investment by the Indian company, made through a designated AD bank with a net-worth limit and annual reporting. In the US, forming a foreign-owned company triggers a BEA survey but, since 2026, no FinCEN beneficial ownership report for a US company.
- The investment is governed by the RBI Master Direction - Overseas Investment (updated as on 1 April 2026) and the OI Rules and Regulations, 2022, and must be in a foreign entity carrying on a bona fide business activity.12
- Total financial commitment to overseas entities, including equity, loans and guarantees to the US company, must stay within 400% of the Indian company's net worth on its last audited balance sheet.3
- One AD bank is designated; Form FC is filed to obtain a UIN on or before the first remittance, and an Annual Performance Report is due by 31 December each year.456
- The US company must file BEA's mandatory BE-13 survey within 45 days when a foreign entity establishes a new US legal entity or acquires 10% or more of its voting interest.7
- FinCEN's final rule, effective 14 August 2026, permanently exempts US companies from beneficial ownership information reporting, so a Delaware subsidiary does not file a BOI report.8
Delaware C-corporation and US formalities
A Delaware C-corporation is the usual vehicle where US venture capital is expected. It needs a Delaware registered agent, a certificate of incorporation and an annual franchise tax and report, plus registration in the states where it actually operates. A US branch of the Indian company is the alternative but is taxed as a foreign corporation's US business.
- A US subsidiary is ring-fenced under the overseas investment rules and its profits reach India as dividends or through transfer pricing; selling from India without a US entity keeps profits in India but risks a US permanent establishment if staff spend long periods in the US.910
- If the US company's key decisions are in substance made in India by the Indian founders, it risks Indian tax residence under the place of effective management test.11
- Delaware requires a registered agent with a physical street address in the state, and the certificate of incorporation must state the name, registered agent and authorised shares and par value.1213
- Delaware corporations file an annual report and pay franchise tax by 1 March; the minimum is $175 under the Authorized Shares Method and $400 under the Assumed Par Value Capital Method, so share structure affects cost.14
- An EIN is needed for tax filings and banking; where the principal place of business is outside the US the application is by phone, fax or mail.15
- A US branch of the Indian company is taxed on effectively connected income at corporate rates and files Form 1120-F.16
Federal, state and Indian tax and the India-US treaty
The US subsidiary pays 21% federal corporate tax, plus state taxes that may not follow the treaty, and files Form 5472 for transactions with its Indian parent. Dividends to India bear US withholding of 30%, reduced to 15% under the India-US DTAA for a parent holding at least 10% of voting stock, with Indian relief for US tax. Transfer pricing on offshore development from India is the main recurring issue.
- The Indian company is taxed on worldwide income; under Article 25 of the treaty India deducts US tax on income the treaty lets the US tax, up to the Indian tax on that income.917
- Development and support services supplied by the Indian company to the US subsidiary must be priced at arm's length and documented; India's revised safe harbour rules group software development and IT-enabled services into one IT services category from FY 2026/27.1819
- Payments from the US company to India for technical services are fees for included services under the treaty only where they make available technical knowledge or transfer a plan or design; otherwise they are business profits.20
- Federal corporate income tax is 21% of taxable income, and a 25% foreign-owned US corporation must file Form 5472 for reportable related-party transactions, with a $25,000 penalty for failing to file it or keep the required records.212223
- Dividends paid to the Indian parent are FDAP income subject to 30% US tax; the India-US DTAA reduces this to 15% where the parent holds at least 10% of the voting stock, subject to its Limitation on Benefits article.242526
- State corporate taxes may apply where the subsidiary does business, and the IRS notes that some states do not honour federal tax treaties, so treaty protection at federal level does not settle state exposure.27
Raising US capital and the flip question
US investors often prefer to invest in a US parent. A flip, in which Indian founders and investors swap their Indian company shares for shares of the US company, engages India's rules for resident individuals investing abroad, foreign investment reporting for the Indian company, and Indian tax on the swap. Raising money in the US subsidiary alone avoids a flip but dilutes the Indian parent's holding in the US business.
- Founders who are resident individuals invest abroad under Schedule III of the OI Rules. In a swap both legs must comply with FEMA, and non-conforming equity must be disinvested within six months.28
- A resident individual who holds a non-controlling stake in a foreign entity that later sets up or acquires a subsidiary may not then acquire control of it; check founder control before restructuring.29
- Once the US company owns the Indian company, the transfer of Indian shares to it is reported in Form FC-TRS within sixty days, and new Indian share issues to it can be paid by remittance or share swap and must be issued within sixty days. Most sectors, including software, sit under the automatic route.303132
- If the US company or any entity below it invests back into India, the structure may not exceed two layers of subsidiaries.33
- A new foreign-owned US entity or a foreign acquisition of 10% or more triggers the BE-13 survey; later foreign investors in the US company can trigger it again.7
- Dividends from the Indian company to a US parent after a flip would be taxed in India under the treaty, while Indian shareholders of a US parent receive US dividends subject to US withholding at treaty rates.2524
Staff, visas and social security
Staff moving from India need a US work visa; the H-1B route now carries a 100,000 US dollar payment for many new petitions, and other routes (such as intracompany transfers) were not source-checked here. There is no India-US social security agreement, so employees working in the US pay US social security and Medicare.
- The United States is not on EPFO's list of countries with which India has social security agreements, so there is no agreement-based exemption for staff sent to the US.34
- Long stays by Indian staff serving US customers for the Indian company can create a US services permanent establishment after 90 days in a twelve-month period.10
- The US has no totalization agreement with India, and for 2026 employers and employees each pay 6.2% social security tax on wages up to $184,500, with Medicare tax on top.3536
- For H-1B workers, USCIS guidance of October 2025 required a 100,000 US dollar payment for new petitions for beneficiaries outside the US; its status after September 2026 must be checked.37
Banking, repatriation and customer data
US banks must identify the US company's 25% beneficial owners, which for a subsidiary means looking through to the Indian parent's owners. Dues from the US company must reach India within 90 days. Selling software to US consumers or businesses brings state privacy laws such as the CCPA into play.
- When the US company opens an account, the bank must identify and verify each individual owning 25% or more and one individual with significant control.39
- The California Consumer Privacy Act applies to for-profit businesses doing business in California above set revenue or data thresholds; check which state privacy laws reach the product.40
Structures to consider
These are the structures businesses commonly weigh, not a recommendation. The right one depends on the facts listed under "What we need from you".
What has to happen first
- IndiaBoard of the Indian company approves the US subsidiary, the investment amount and future funding plans; check net-worth headroom.
- Both sidesDecide the long-term structure: subsidiary only, or a later flip; map founder holdings and control.After step 1
- IndiaDesignate the AD bank and file Form FC to obtain the UIN.After step 1
- United StatesIncorporate the Delaware C-corporation with a registered agent and authorised share structure; obtain an EIN.After step 2
- Both sidesOpen the US bank account, providing beneficial owner information, and remit share capital through the AD bank.After step 3, 4
- United StatesFile BEA form BE-13 within 45 days and register in the states where staff or operations will be.After step 4
- Both sidesPut intercompany agreements in place for development, support and IP, with a transfer pricing policy for both countries.After step 4
- Both sidesPlan visas, US payroll and the social security position of staff moving from India.After step 4
- United StatesStart selling; set up federal and state tax compliance, Form 5472 records and state privacy compliance.After step 5, 7
- Both sidesBefore a US fundraise, decide between investment at subsidiary level and a flip; for a flip, map FEMA steps for each resident shareholder and Indian tax on the swap.After step 2, 9
- Both sidesOngoing: APR by 31 December, Delaware report and franchise tax by 1 March, Form 1120 by the 15th day of the 4th month, transfer pricing files in both countries, repatriation within 90 days.After step 9
What we need from you before anyone can advise
- Planned US revenue, headcount and states where staff will work.
- Whether and when US venture investors will require a US parent, and the expected size of the round.
- Shareholding of the Indian company: resident founders, non-resident shareholders, existing foreign investors and who has control.
- The Indian company's net worth and existing overseas commitments.
- Which staff will move to the US, for how long, and their visa eligibility.
- Where the intellectual property is owned today and where development will happen after the fundraise.
- Whether the product processes personal data of US consumers.
What this guide does not yet confirm
These points need checking with a qualified local professional before you rely on them.
- Indian income tax treatment of a share swap in a flip under the Income-tax Act, 2025 was not researched.
- The full Schedule III conditions of the Overseas Investment Rules for resident individuals, including any restriction on investing in foreign entities with subsidiaries, could not yet be checked in the Rules themselves.
- Inbound cross-border merger rules used for reverse flips (Companies Act and RBI cross-border merger regulations) were not researched.
- L-1 intracompany transferee and other visa routes were not source-checked; the H-1B payment requirement relies on a secondary source from October 2025 and its status after September 2026 was not confirmed.
- US state corporate income tax rates, nexus rules and Delaware state income tax were not researched.
- Whether India and the US have a bilateral investment treaty or any trade agreement in force was not confirmed (search budget exhausted).
- US qualified small business stock rules and other C-corporation investor tax points were not researched.
- FEMA rules on realisation of software export proceeds and SOFTEX reporting could not yet be checked (RBI Master Direction pages returned other content).
- GST treatment of services exported by the Indian company to the US subsidiary was not source-checked.
Brief for your advisers
Questions to put to your advisers in each country. Copy them, or download them as a text file to send with your requirement.
- AD bank: what documents do you need for Form FC and the UIN, and how will you assess bona fide business and pricing for a US subsidiary?
- Indian FEMA adviser: can our resident founders swap their Indian shares for US company shares under Schedule III of the OI Rules, and what control or layering limits apply?
- Indian tax adviser: how would a share swap in a flip be taxed for each class of shareholder, and are any reliefs available under the Income-tax Act, 2025?
- Both tax advisers: what transfer pricing method suits offshore development from India for the US company, and can India's IT services safe harbour be used?
- US tax adviser: in which states will we have nexus, which state taxes apply, and do those states follow the India-US treaty?
- US tax adviser: will the US company qualify for the 15% treaty dividend rate under the Limitation on Benefits article?
- US immigration adviser: which visa routes fit our staff, and what is the current status of the H-1B payment requirement?
- US counsel: what share structure and Delaware franchise tax method should we use ahead of a venture round?
Who can help, on each side
India
- Setting up and running a company · Arranged by WONE Global on request
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- Contracts and commercial law · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Tax and structuring · Led by Sandeep Gupta
- Accounting and annual filings · Led by Sandeep Gupta
- Buying, selling and investing · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Banking and capital · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Employment, payroll and immigration · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Data protection and cyber · Arranged by WONE Global on request
United States
- Setting up and running a company · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Payments and currency · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Contracts and commercial law · Led by F Miles Adler
- Tax and structuring · Led by F Miles Adler
- Accounting and annual filings · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Buying, selling and investing · Led by F Miles Adler
- Banking and capital · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Employment, payroll and immigration · Arranged by WONE Global on request
- Data protection and cyber · Arranged by WONE Global on request
Sources and review status
Each statement is numbered to the source it was checked against. We use official sources where we can, and each statement says whether it was checked against an official or a secondary source. Sources last checked on 19 October 2026. None of it has been professionally reviewed yet: it is research checked against official and secondary sources by WONE Global, not legal or tax advice.
Overseas investment by Indian residents is governed by the RBI Master Direction - Overseas Investment, read with the Foreign Exchange Management (Overseas Investment) Rules, 2022 and Regulations, 2022. Applies to any person resident in India making overseas direct or portfolio investment, including an Indian company setting up a foreign subsidiary. The Master Direction was issued on 24 July 2024 and its content was updated as on 1 April 2026.
The Rules (G.S.R. 646(E), 22 August 2022) are issued by the Central Government; the RBI-hosted gazette PDF of the Rules returned a bot check and could not yet be checked.
Overseas investment may be made only in a foreign entity engaged in a bona fide business activity, directly or through a step-down subsidiary or special purpose vehicle. The Master Direction does not define bona fide business activity; the definition sits in the OI Rules.
An Indian entity's total financial commitment in all foreign entities taken together must not exceed 400% of its net worth as per its last audited balance sheet, or as directed by the Reserve Bank. Overall automatic-route limit in Schedule I of the OI Rules. Financial commitment includes equity, debt and guarantees given to or on behalf of the foreign entity.
Secondary source. The RBI Master Direction (para 21) refers to the Schedule I limit without stating the percentage, and the official Rules text could not yet be checked.
An Indian investor must designate one authorised dealer (AD) bank and route all transactions relating to an overseas direct investment through it. A unique identification number (UIN) must be obtained through the designated AD bank before the outward remittance or acquisition of equity, whichever is earlier. The bank can be changed after obtaining an NOC from the existing bank.
Form FC, with the required documents, must be submitted to the AD bank to obtain a UIN on or before making the initial overseas direct investment. The UIN is a database number and is not an RBI approval.
An Indian investor with overseas direct investment must submit an Annual Performance Report for each foreign entity by 31 December each year. Not required where the holding is under 10% without control and there is no other financial commitment, or where the foreign entity is under liquidation. The APR must be certified by a chartered accountant where statutory audit does not apply (Master Direction para 17(3)).
A US business enterprise must file the mandatory BEA BE-13 survey when a foreign entity acquires a direct or indirect voting interest of at least 10 percent in it or establishes a new US legal entity, no later than 45 days after the acquisition, establishment or expansion. Federal (Bureau of Economic Analysis). BEA states all its surveys of foreign direct investment in the US are mandatory and confidential.
FinCEN's final beneficial ownership information (BOI) rule, effective 14 August 2026, permanently exempts US companies from BOI reporting and removes the need to report US persons as beneficial owners. Federal rule under the Corporate Transparency Act. Applies nationwide; makes permanent the exemptions first introduced by the interim final rule of 26 March 2025.
Final rule published in the Federal Register on 14 August 2026 (document 2026-16576); the Federal Register page was seen in search results but not yet checked.
An Indian company is taxed on its worldwide income, with double taxation relieved through tax treaties or unilateral relief and foreign tax credit rules. Applies to dividends and any other income the Indian parent earns from the foreign subsidiary.
Secondary source.
Under Article 5(2)(l) of the India-US DTAA, furnishing services through employees or other personnel creates a permanent establishment where the activities continue for periods aggregating more than 90 days within any twelve-month period, and services performed for a related enterprise can also create one. India-US Convention signed 12 September 1989, in force 18 December 1990.
The department page shows inconsistent signature and entry-into-force dates in its header; the Convention text gives 12 September 1989 and 18 December 1990.
A foreign company is resident in India in a year if its place of effective management (where key management and commercial decisions for the business as a whole are in substance made) is in India. Circulars say the POEM test does not apply to a foreign company with turnover or gross receipts of INR 500 million or less in the year.
Secondary source; the corresponding provision of the Income-tax Act, 2025 could not yet be checked.
Delaware law requires every business entity to have and maintain a registered agent in Delaware with a physical street address in the state. State rule (Delaware). The agent may be a Delaware-resident individual or a business entity authorised to do business in Delaware; other states set their own registered agent rules.
A Delaware certificate of incorporation must state the corporation's name and its registered agent's name and address, and a stock corporation must state its number of authorised shares and their par value. State rule (Delaware corporations). LLCs file a certificate of formation instead.
Delaware domestic corporations must file an annual report and pay franchise tax on or before 1 March each year; the minimum franchise tax is $175 under the Authorized Shares Method and $400 under the Assumed Par Value Capital Method, with a $200,000 maximum. State rule (Delaware corporations). The annual report fee is $50 for non-exempt corporations and $25 for exempt corporations (stated on the Division's How to Form page).
The FAQ prints the maximum as $200.000.00, apparently a typographical error for $200,000.00, which the How to Form page states.
An applicant for an employer identification number (EIN) whose principal place of business is outside the US can apply by phone, fax or mail; online application is available where the principal place of business is in the US. Federal (IRS). The IRS limits applicants to one EIN application per day. International applicant phone line: +1 267-941-1099.
Income of a foreign corporation that is effectively connected with a US trade or business is taxed at the same rates as income of a US corporation, after allowed deductions, and is reported on Form 1120-F. Federal. Applies to foreign corporations operating in the US directly (for example through a branch); also covers US-source FDAP income.
Under Article 25 of the India-US DTAA, India allows a deduction from Indian tax for US tax paid on income that the treaty allows the US to tax, capped at the Indian tax attributable to that income, and the US allows a credit for Indian income tax subject to US law.
Indian transfer pricing rules require international transactions between associated enterprises to be at arm's length, supported by annual documentation and an accountant's report filed one month before the income tax return. A new accountant's report form applies from tax year 2026-27. A master file is required for groups with consolidated turnover above INR 5 billion (plus transaction thresholds); country-by-country reporting applies above INR 64 billion.
Secondary source.
Under India's revised transfer pricing safe harbour rules, software development, IT-enabled services, knowledge process outsourcing and contract R&D for software development are grouped into a single IT services category, available for a block of five consecutive tax years from FY 2026/27. Central tax. Eligibility thresholds and safe harbour margins were not stated on the source page.
Secondary source (page last reviewed 11 May 2026); the CBDT notification could not yet be checked.
Under Article 12 of the India-US DTAA, fees for included services cover technical or consultancy services that make available technical knowledge, experience, skill, know-how or processes, or consist of developing and transferring a technical plan or design, and source taxation of royalties and such fees is capped at 15% after the first five years (10% for certain equipment rentals). Fees outside this definition fall to be dealt with as business profits, taxable in the source state only through a permanent establishment.
US corporations figure federal income tax by multiplying taxable income by 21%. Federal corporate income tax. State and local corporate income or franchise taxes are additional and vary by state.
A 25% foreign-owned US corporation, including a foreign-owned US disregarded entity, and a foreign corporation engaged in a US trade or business must file Form 5472 to report reportable transactions with related parties. Federal (section 6038A). A foreign-owned US disregarded entity must file a pro forma Form 1120 with Form 5472 attached even though it has no income tax filing requirement. Exceptions exist and are narrower for disregarded entities.
The penalty for failing to file Form 5472, or to keep the required records, is $25,000 per reporting corporation, with a further $25,000 for each 30-day period the failure continues more than 90 days after IRS notification. Federal. A substantially incomplete Form 5472 counts as a failure to file.
Dividends paid by a US company to a foreign shareholder are FDAP income subject to 30% US tax, or a lower treaty rate, usually collected by withholding. Federal. Relevant to profit repatriation from a US subsidiary.
The Income Tax Department lists India-US treaty rates of 15% on dividends where the recipient holds at least 10% of the voting stock and 25% otherwise, 10% (bank or similar institution) or 15% on interest, and 10% or 15% on royalties and fees for included services. India-US DTAA.
Article 24 (Limitation on Benefits) of the India-US DTAA requires a resident company, to qualify under its ownership and base erosion tests, to be more than 50% beneficially owned by qualifying residents or US citizens and not to use its income in substantial part to pay liabilities to non-qualifying persons, with alternative active business and listed company tests and competent authority discretion. Applies to persons other than individuals claiming treaty benefits.
The IRS notes that some US states do not honour the provisions of federal income tax treaties. US state income taxes.
Where a resident individual acquires foreign securities by a swap of securities, both legs of the transaction must comply with FEMA, and any equity received that does not conform to the rules must be disinvested within six months. Relevant to founders exchanging Indian company shares for shares of a US company in a flip.
Where a resident individual has made overseas direct investment without control in a foreign entity and that entity later acquires or sets up a subsidiary or step-down subsidiary, the individual may not acquire control in the foreign entity. Resident individuals invest under Schedule III of the Overseas Investment Rules; this is the restriction as stated in the RBI Master Direction. The full Schedule III conditions could not yet be checked in the Rules themselves.
Commentary often describes a wider restriction on resident individuals investing in foreign entities with subsidiaries; the Rules text could not yet be checked, so only the Master Direction wording is stated.
A transfer of equity instruments of an Indian company between a person resident outside India holding them on a repatriable basis and a person resident in India must be reported in Form FC-TRS within sixty days of the transfer or of receipt or remittance of funds, whichever is earlier. Reporting is made through an authorised dealer bank unless otherwise stated. Applies, for example, when Indian founders transfer Indian company shares to a US company.
Consideration for equity instruments issued by an Indian company to a person resident outside India may be paid by inward remittance through banking channels and includes a swap of equity instruments or equity capital; the instruments must be issued within sixty days of receipt of consideration. Schedule I, Part A of the Regulations; unissued consideration must be refunded within fifteen days after the sixty-day period.
Foreign investment under the automatic route does not need prior approval of the RBI or the central government, while investment under the government route needs prior government approval and must follow the conditions of that approval. Applies by sector under the Consolidated FDI Policy and the FEMA (Non-debt Instruments) Rules, 2019. Central rule.
The FAQ document is undated; it refers to the Consolidated FDI Policy Circular of 15 October 2020 as amended.
A financial commitment in a foreign entity that has invested or invests into India is not permitted where it results in a structure with more than two layers of subsidiaries, and no further layer may be added to such a structure. Implements rule 19(3) of the OI Rules (the round-tripping restriction). Relevant if the foreign subsidiary or any of its subsidiaries invests back into India.
The Master Direction does not use the term round tripping; the description of rule 19(3) as a round-tripping control comes from secondary commentary.
EPFO's brochure on international workers lists India's social security agreements with 20 countries (Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Luxembourg, France, South Korea, Netherlands, Hungary, Finland, Sweden, Czech Republic, Norway, Austria, Canada, Australia, Japan, Quebec, Portugal and Brazil, the last not yet in force); the United States is not among them. The brochure is undated; the latest date in it is 27 July 2022.
The US Social Security Administration lists totalization agreements in force with 31 countries, and India is not among them. Federal. List as shown in SSA POMS GN 01701.005, dated 17 September 2026.
For 2026, social security tax is 6.2% each for employer and employee on wages up to a wage base limit of $184,500. Federal (FICA). Wages above the wage base are not subject to social security tax.
USCIS guidance of 20 October 2025 applied the 100,000 US dollar payment under the presidential proclamation on H-1B workers to new H-1B petitions filed from 21 September 2025 for beneficiaries outside the US without a valid H-1B visa, but not to change of status, extension or amended petitions granted inside the US. Federal. Also applies to petitions requesting consular, port-of-entry or pre-flight notification for someone inside the US.
Secondary law-firm source; the USCIS page could not yet be checked. Whether the proclamation was extended, changed or ended after September 2026 was not confirmed.
All dues receivable from the foreign entity must be realised and repatriated to India within 90 days of falling due. Also applies to sale or disinvestment proceeds (90 days from transfer) and liquidation proceeds (90 days from distribution). The regulation refers to dues generally; dividends declared by the foreign subsidiary are understood to be dues once declared.
Treating declared dividends as dues falling due is our reading; confirm with the AD bank.
Covered financial institutions must identify and verify the beneficial owners of a legal entity customer when it opens an account: each individual who owns 25 percent or more of the equity interests, and a single individual with significant responsibility to control, manage or direct the entity. Federal customer due diligence rule, 31 CFR 1010.230(b) and (d). Separate from, and not replaced by, the narrowed FinCEN beneficial ownership information reporting regime. See us-banking-g03 for 2026 relief on repeat account openings.
The eCFR is an authoritative but unofficial editorial compilation; the official text is the annual CFR edition and Federal Register. eCFR text up to date as of 15 October 2026; no 2026 amendment to this section was shown.
The California Consumer Privacy Act applies to for-profit businesses doing business in California that have gross annual revenue over 25 million US dollars, or buy, sell or share personal information of 100,000 or more California residents or households, or derive 50% or more of annual revenue from selling California residents' personal information. State law (California), not federal. Any one threshold is enough. Nonprofits and government agencies are generally not covered. The revenue figure is adjusted for inflation by regulation; the current adjusted figure was not confirmed on the source page.
The Attorney General page states the statutory 25 million US dollar figure. The California Privacy Protection Agency adjusts this figure for inflation; check the Agency's current figure before relying on it.
